Key flow chart
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Élodie Massa
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Charles BIRON
Good morning,
Starting with the definition of doors seemed too complex to me. It seems useful to me to know who has which key.
Thus, in configuration, configuration of the various available key models.
In a dedicated module, possibility of allocating a key to a person and having synthetic states.
A bit like how a group works.
Great idea, CB.
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Misha
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Key flow chart
Fayçal-Bey HEDEF
Here is an example on the net (see attached excel file) that could be simplified and adapted on ENORIA...
Thank you again for this great management, communication and administration tool.
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P. Raphaël Cournault
Thanks! It's... complex as a file!
Urbain LONIEWSKI
In my opinion, the module would be more appropriate, you should not omit the code key option and list who knows it so that when the day changes people can be informed about it, for example. In addition, the keys are not necessarily kept by one person but in a “place” so provide for this option as well. In short, being able to leave from a “person” or storage like a key box and see the keys in your possession. And leave a door and see who can open it. For the moment in paradise it's simpler there is officially only Saint Pierre;) Good luck with the development.
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Misha
Personally I would find this very useful... by creating doors, linked to existing rooms, by creating cylinders opened by keys, cylinders that are assigned to doors, and by linking keys to people.
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P. Raphaël Cournault
I am interested in the feedback of anyone who has good ideas on how to do this, because it seems complicated to me as long as the number of combinations can be high!
Armel Bouchacourt
P. Raphaël Cournault I imagine that you have to take over an already existing system and adapt it. Perhaps be inspired by liturgical actors? You should be able to create models of keys such as liturgical functions and then simply be able to assign them to people, with a module to be able to have a table with each person and the different keys they hold.
Jonathan ROBERT
P. Raphaël Cournault hello, for key I saw simple key management like tags that are added to a person: “key to the cure”; “key to the Sainte-Marie room”.
Tags were created before and the best thing would be to be able to assign them to places.
Locations A:
- entry key
- office key
...
With a place where we see the list of all the people with key tags with filters by tags and by places to know who has the keys to which places.
We could add additional fields if users want to add information on the keys (token code for example, key delivery date)
Xavier d'HALLUIN
P. Raphaël Cournault this video gives an idea of a key software that already exists => https://youtu.be/sdKpDwIwXFs?si=kOi7ks4RvUvOkaYB
Xavier d'HALLUIN
Fully ready to have a dedicated key module. It's too complex to do it only in a group
Bastien URANGA
Hi Armel,
It seems to me that a “Key Holders” group with additional fields (which key, returns, delivery date, etc.) would be sufficient to handle this, no?
I don't really see the point of a dedicated module for this.
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Élodie Massa
Bastien URANGA I am mixed on this question... that's what I said to myself at the beginning but in fact according to the parishes/parish groups, there are so many rooms, different sets of keys... it seems complex to me to make everything fit in a group, maybe I am wrong, it would be interesting to have user feedback who already today manage this in a group!
Eloi Sarrazin
Élodie Massa
We at Lyon Center managed it in an additional field at the parish level, which is also very complicated to manage.
Armel Bouchacourt
Bastien URANGA It is indeed possible but it is not easy because of the many different keys, which makes lots of combinations possible. A dedicated module with the possibility of creating keys and assigning them would be simpler in my opinion.
Benoît CHASTEAU DE BALYON
Bastien URANGA it depends on the number of different keys and the number of people who have keys. Ex: entry keys, but not of the portal, keys of the portal, but not of the entrance, both at the same time ect