User models
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Guillaume DEVEAUX
It might be useful to be able to create “user models.”
Example: “Catechist model”; “Chaplaincy animator model”.
During creation, the “role” tab could show these models.
- This would simplify the creation of these users whose rights are often restricted... and who are repeated.
- It would also allow you to think carefully about the rights to be given
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Élodie Massa
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Joëlle HORVILLE
Good morning,
Another way would be to allow user duplication.
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P. Raphaël Cournault
Pierre-Yves LIGNEY your remark is very relevant here is the list of specific functions, what does it seem unclear to you?
Pierre-Yves LIGNEY
Good morning,
I share your opinion on the difficulty of setting up a user and the need for help in this regard.
But I would rather advocate for a tutorial to explain the check boxes and the effects of each box.
Indeed it seems to me that users have very varied profiles with very varied levels of computer fluency. Since almost all of them are volunteers, their role in the parish is built around their skills and we adapt the rights according to their role. You can have a parish notary who also manages funerals. A cat manager who takes care of liturgical animators while another is involved in weddings.
To summarize there are almost as many roles as users and I like this “à la carte” configuration. For me it is an Enoria strength.
I think that the knowledge base is very well suited to discover Enoria, the sacraments, room reservations, groups,... On the other hand, I think that this knowledge base has a gap in terms of user configuration, especially specific functions.
Guillaume DEVEAUX
Pierre-Yves LIGNEY: Our two remarks are complementary.
Mine is about repeating the configuration of the same user profile. For example I want to give the rights to 10 “catechists”, the same rights. I can create these 10 profiles; it's painstaking; with the risk of forgetting to click a box.
If I could create a “catechist” profile, I would then just have to assign it to each of the catechists.
The same goes for chaplaincy animators, catechumenate.
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P. Raphaël Cournault
Guillaume DEVEAUX: In Enoria's logic, it's not up to you to create everyone's profiles... you just create the person in charge of the catechism with the right to “create an inferior user” and you train him and manage the rights of his catechists... It makes no sense in Enoria to manage everything in a centralized way!
Bastien URANGA
P. Raphaël Cournault: But maybe it's the way some parishes work, or maybe it's the wish of some pastors that this or that manager can't create roles. It is also perhaps because the training of new users is already dense and because they have a lot of notions to ingest, that we do not want to add more with the creation of users, rights, accesses, etc.
Another case: it is necessary to create all the service managers of a parish, or all the service managers of a diocese. Their rights will be almost all the same, what will change will be the groups they have access to. We could therefore create a user 1 who is responsible for the parish service with access to groups A and B. Then, when we want to create a user 2, responsible for another department, we duplicate the rights of user 1 on the user 2, then, then, we modify the accesses to the groups of user 2. This avoids having to go back and forth between two tabs to configure “General Access Rights” and “Specific Functions”.
Allowing roles to be created with predefined rights or allowing the rights of a user to be duplicated on another user can be one of the answers to this recurring need when a parish arrives in Enoria and needs to create a lot of users.
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Élodie Massa
Pierre-Yves LIGNEY: There is a documentation page dedicated to the management and configuration of users https://docs.enoria.app/fr/paroisse/utilisateurs you can give us suggestions for improving this page via support.